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I can only conclude that they simple dont care whether anyone is abused in that church. Velour At least she cares. Ingrained. Its all pride. Did CJ Mahaney in calling any discussion on molestations, gossip and preaching the doctrine of sin leveling? Its also known for gospel music and country music, isnt it? Our summer camp staff includes over 1,800 dedicated, kid-loving, Christ-following, fun-producing college students. A small independent Fellowship was what messed me up in the mid-Seventies. That is why they both told us to be diligent. Note the highlighted portion. I dont get it. Kanakuk said in its most recent IRS filing thatrevenues topped $31.6 million in 2019. So long as it was just those awful Catholic Papists and their anti-Christ in his pointy hat, they (protestant fundagelicals) were as smug and confident as Joshua encircling Jericho. Why isnt this the case where such things have been found to go on so long with so many in positions of leadership knowing? Hit them where it hurts. I escorted my parents to Branson once. Come to find out it was because they did not give tenure to a very Calvinist prof. Then these same Mohler appointed leaders, speaking for Ky baptists, threatened to take away the 1 million dollar a year subsidy to the college. If the guy was in a 12-step program with a sponsor on his heels, hed be making amends, not defending the indefensible. I think the last year he was in ministry was working for Wade. But only he and Newman were present, he now recalls. They take responsibility when they screw up. I wrote a post Your Pastor Is a Sinner which discusses this very thing. Milton Friedman talked about how you have to make it profitable for people to do the right thing, I think punitive is just the opposite of that, you make it costly to do the wrong thing. They totally trust them. It comes highly rated as a Christian camp (make that kamp) and we all know Christian = safe, has an emphasis on sports, has achieved some national notoriety, and is only three hours from here. Add to that the kids have not only been molested but have gone through a psychological brain washing and twisting with undeveloped brains. In those days, such a happening would have lost them a lot of campers/money. "And the counselor was like, the camp's reaching out to victims, and don't worry about that. Thanks again for your kind words. These churches are either incredibly stupid, blind, or just dont care even a little bit about what is right. Childrens lives are at stake here. Only not in the way the person expects, they use it to perfect their craft. As long as Christians remember the words of St. Peter To whom shall we go, Lord. We have to ask where did people learn to be such lemmings after all they are in a place where they are paying for a service, right? But for Jesus it did have to do with that temple/ that building in Jerusalem and what he said was My house shall be called a house of prayer. Throw out people who make truly negligent decisions on this, every time maybe? We need to shout this stuff from the mountaintop.. And expose these enablers for what they are Ive posted the video here a few times of Greg Loves talk at DTS. Whats the point of these background checks if they dont prevent hiring a criminal? Never again. 5:3? But Im still a bit traumatized by the tour of his office, which had all manner of animal trophies. Alas, however; you are very unlikely to ever see Dolly herself there. . He is victim prevention. Its a tough gig for lawyers trying to represent victims of clergy sexual abuse. They could not sign because of the restriction on women. They are out there but can be hard to find as they dont tend to attract much attention to themselves. There certainly seems to be a lot of nepotism. Yes, lawsuits against churches/para church orgs have increased. As a woman who divorced a narcissist.those are the people to avoid. I mean, this kind of thing is intentionally guarded against in secular settings with children. -Kanakuk officials had received sexual misconduct reports about Pete Newman as early as 1999. Of course there are some similarities and some overlap on some issues. I guess the appropriate word to use here is grooming. What I said has nothing to do with a building; we are not Jews at a temple in Jerusalem. Everyone else said, 'it was so long ago. Plain English. One more thing about this, punitive only goes after the specific people at fault. It is still hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that he is capable of the heinous acts that he committed, and would do that kind of damage to these boys. It was supposed to be a place that showed him Godd love. Top/down authoritarian polity churches dont fire their leaders. My son wound up doing a little counseling of one or two of those counsellors, just to give them a listening ear and encouragement. Maybe we should really rethink that idea. The first civil lawsuits against Kanakuk and former Kanakuk Kamps Director Pete Newman alleging sexual abuse are filed on behalf of a Jane Doe and John Doe in Texas federal court. @ Lydia: Thank you, ladies for your hard work. @ BeenThereDoneThat: There have been some problems with this in the business world as well. There can be no excuse, no rationalization, no mitigating factors. . Skepticism is another of the deadly sins in the authoritarian church. I hope they win. Because I knew someone who sent their kids there this year. Criminal behavior to knowingly bring a man charged with paedophilia anywhere NEAR children . And if something goes wronglike the statute of limitations runs out and theres no way to extend it in some way, shape or formthen the law firm eats the cost of the case. Nah, I have to rein in my anger before I comment on that! If anyone has the means to contribute that would be appreciated right now. I hope you realize I am speaking of cover ups, hiring known abusers, etc. Vorlon Ambassador Kosh: In Fire. Yes, it looks like they went too far toward the OTHER extreme, resulting in creating an opening for the neo-Cal movement. One reason I dont trust him is because he thinks its a sin to sue the body of Christ (which, in Scripture he is referencing, is people not a non profit status institution) when the scriptures clarify not suing for trivial matters. That just destroyed her, and my family was shocked.". He was fired and escorted off the premises that day. What on earth is going on in christian land these days? In fact, many here saw Criswell (his mentor) as a sort of backwoods demagogue. They went on fall and summer retreats, too. They take responsibility when they screw up. http://www.nakedpastor.com/ In 2010, one of the camp's senior counselors, Pete Newman, pleaded guilty to seven counts of sexually abusing boys. Second: I am commenting only to add some insight to the discussion. Just really screwed-up stuff.". Amen Christiane. A huge and disastrous law suit would be a good place to start. However, when I google soul competency for a definition what I see there does not seem to be what you are saying, so we may be talking about two different things. I do know my brother literally cannot NOT manipulate. If it werent so ludicrous it would almost be funny. A while back, there was a male counselor who allowed his cabin of boys to horse around in the cabin while naked. Is this the only Christian camp in Branson? Dave, did you know that Dr. Hawkes is a neuropsychologist? I am at a loss when it comes to people in institutions looking the other way. Some of your stories are what first clued me in. Its public record, and that pastor needs to get famous. Keith Dygert, another 34-year-old who grew up in Branson and currently lives there, filed a civil lawsuit that was later dismissed when "all parties agreed to a settlement," according to Missouri court records. Protecting the kids from sexual abuse should be pretty basic, both from a Christian standpoint and from a business standpoint. ", Hoffpauir now says, "I hate it with a passion" that Newman performed the marriage. "The sin is what goes on in the mind. And Christians should stop giving their money to these abusive churches. Coming forward and trusting others to write your story is difficult. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: Under the circumstances, all things considered, HEADLESS, the evidence points in that direction yes. News Flash: These guys obviously do not believe this. I think he is clever and I have no doubt his materials are good. Except it sounds like nobody talked about it??? It read: The Lord is in his holy temple, let all the earth keep silent before Him. She drove 4 hours to get them. The proof is in the fruit. Thank you. I wonder how many have had their outlook on life disfigured because Paul Newman molested them and because Joe White did not fire him and report him to the police. He was a god at the church he pastor end in Dallas. It happened at a bible camp. He spoke to thousands of kids every year through LifeWay. Any church leader who takes part in bringing paedophilia into the Church needs to be got out of ministry and kept out of ministry. The abuseexperiencelastedfrom 1999 until roughly 2003, during the time that Newman was a counselor at Branson-based Kanakuk Kamps. Kanakuk, meanwhile, did not directly respond to inquiries from the News-Leader for this report. We must honor them with listening. Your understanding of human nature is not full until youve seen evil masked by good, up close and personal. . So did the Apostle Paul. We only hear about the ones who slipped up and got caught. On that first night of abuse, Dygert said Newman told him, "'This would be one of the best bonding things we could do.' Jesus did not mince words. I agree that PP and a whole bunch of the bunch are primarily politicians. Hoffpauirsaid he was in seventh grade when he first encountered Newman. I suppose that is the effect that Mohlers Calvinism (TULIP) has on his thinking (Total Depravity) ??? Elizabeth Easter wrote about this on her blog and in her book Girl at The End of The World. They obviously do not care what it says nor do they think they will ever suffer these consequences. I cant even begin to imagine. A rare man. Do you think this one is simple good ole boy network/nepotism? We still would not know how Cultic the Villiage is had it not been for that brave young woman. Can she not add and subtract? I didn't talk to anyone. The missionaries were victims of the culling of diversity within the SBC, which apparently was seen as intolerable to the new leadership. He says he wont sue the church, because he would find it uncomfortable to explain to Jesus how he took the churchs money and gave Him back 10%. Its not inside the church, but its only a few feet from the churchs parking lot, front walk, etc. The real church following the real Jesus produces disciples who grow in the FRUIT of the spirit, not the mere knowledge of some religious system. :o). I get trying to weed them out on the front end and that is good but we are dealing with master cons. She's blaming herself. One would hope. If you suspect physical or sexual abuse, immediately contact CPS and the police. That is what I call integrity. That same year, Kanakuk Kamps Director Pete Newman was criminally charged and convicted of abusing dozens of campers. +++++++++++++++++++. I know nothing about that conversion process. There have been some problems with this in the business world as well. The members of the churches begin to demand the kind of things theyve heard or read about through these groups. I know highly trained auditors (including in my family) and they arent licensed. And it sends a message. Grownups shouldnt be getting naked with teenagers at camp. I dont think most evangelical people are into this, but some do go through a kind of Lenten preparation for Easter, yes. Would that even work? Thanks, LawProf. However, it is because of Pete, that I have developed a worldview that acknowledges the power of sin and that no one is immune to the influence of the flesh. I have no problem with hunting for food or defending against animals that are pests/threats, but hunting for personal glory .. no. ", "It was just things that are not normal," Hoffpauir said. I call it chosen ignorance. Centauri Emperor Turhan: How will it end? Get a good PR team? FIFTEEN YEARS of grooming third parties. I told him, Well, your 30-something pastors, they have a lot to learn, told him to pay attention to what people do, not what they say, and knowing a person well enough to talk them up takes a lot longer than a few months or years, it takes many years, maybe decades, seeing someone at their best and worst and having them see you at your worst and seeing how they take it, before you can pronounce someone genuine. Actually, I think it was said by Boris Badenov on the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show cartoons. Looks like the Resurgence went too far in the OTHER direction. Its taken us time to process it and Im sure it will take us much more time to work through it. They are paid by the organization to do the investigation. Heres a David Hayward cartoon in honor of Cecil the Lion killed by a dentist in Africa. Actually, it would be better if churches used a secular training program for abuse training. @ Lydia: It is hard to tell, for sure. This is apples and oranges. We are talking about more than just sin here- we are talking about personality disorder. The YMCA pays for the service they receive but there is not the problem of the Christian brotherhood. -Newman bombarded the plaintiff, referred to as "John Doe, J. G." in the petition with phone calls and letters and engaged in phone sex with him. Years before, when he was a child, Newman had "wanted me to come to a sleepover event," Dygert said. Prayer Request: Former CLCer will be having eye surgery tomorrow in the D.C. area The News-Leaderleft three detailed voicemails on the phone line linked to Staples' Branson-area counseling practice. Huh? And he spoke two nights, and I was his minor, little-kid helper. Do their liveried flunkies blow long trumpets before them to announce how HUMBLE they are? There is a lot of mega ego involved. Few do. How does that place on the spectrum with Grinning Ed Youngs Seven-Day Sex Challenge from the pulpit, preacher-men parading their Smokin HAWT Trophy Wives before the Beta-to-Omega male pewsitters, and Purity Culture bribing boys to save themselves for marriage with promises of Constant Barn-Burning Swinging-from-the-Chandeliers Dynamite Married S*E*X starting the moment they say I Do? It was a long time ago. Its such a relief to be out of that scene. Crazy. CYA. If I had young children and theyd been to any Christian activities, I would be paranoid. The time I heard it that had THE most impact was on a CD by this one small-press Furry cartoonist from VA who was passing them out at AnthroCon some 15 years ago. I went to branson in like 1990. I probably mostly agree, but I still think the issue is one of the heart of these supposed leaders and until that changes, we will make no headway. What I came to see (up close and personal) is that they have convinced themselves (due to their success in their little kingdoms) that their ministry/message is blessed by God and nothing can be allowed to stain that. In a faith community where a persons OWN informed moral conscience, when exercised after considering ones personal situation, what the Church teaches, and after prayer for guidance from the Holy Spirit, takes priority over ANY external authoritarian direction,